Trump's tongue-breaking "New York Times" group full version is here

US President-elect Trump and the New York Times reporters, editors, and columnists sat around the conference table on Tuesday and accepted a "group visit." The New York Times continued to be unfriendly to Trump and threw out a "difficult problem." The first financial paper attempts to reproduce the scene at the time (slightly abridged), allowing readers to feel the atmosphere of the time.

Trump: I respect the New York Times very much. The New York Times is always very special. I think I have been treated harshly. Obviously, I am treated extremely unfairly in a certain sense. I am complaining not only about the New York Times, but I will say that the New York Times is the most rude of all. You can say that the Washington Post is negative, but every once in a while, I actually get a positive article. I hope to reverse the status quo, which will also make my future work easier. We are working hard and there will be great people joining our team soon.

"This is definitely the most vicious election."

Trump: In a news report, some people said that I am not keen (prosecution). I want to turn over (election) this page, I don't want to go backwards. I really don't want to hurt Clinton.

She (Clinton) has experienced a lot and has suffered greatly in many different ways. I don't want to hurt them. The campaign is sinister. They said this was the most vicious party primaries and the most sinister presidential campaign. I think, adding these together, this is definitely the most vicious election. Probably I can assume that you have sold a lot of newspapers. I believe that we must focus our country on the future.

Matthew Lupudi MAT THEW PURDY, Associate Editor: So you will definitely remove the Clinton Mail and Foundation survey from the agenda?

Trump: No, this question has already been asked. I just don't really like this. I attach great importance to medical insurance. I also value the immigration bill, and I think that even people in this room will be happy. You have been talking about the immigration bill for 50 years, but nothing has happened yet.

I value a fair and just immigration bill and there are many other things. I don't want to look back, it's a very painful period. It used to be a very painful election, full of e-mail events, foundation events, and everything else we and the country have experienced.

Carolyn Road Ryan CA ROLYN RYAN, Senior Political Editor): Do you think this will disappoint your supporters? Do they seem to be motivated by the accountability of the Clinton incident? What would you say to them?

Trump: I don't think they will be disappointed. I think I will explain that we must save our country in many ways.

Because our country really faces terrible big troubles and problems. One of the big problems I talked about was the split of the people. I think many people will be grateful to me for doing this (not prosecuting) because it is time to change the way forward.

Elizabeth Bulmel (ELISABETH BUMILLER, station manager in Washington): I just want to follow up, you are asked not to investigate Hillary Clinton any questions. Do you mean that you will not pursue any of the email surveys or foundation surveys?

Trump: Yes, you know that we have someone (inspector) investigating everything. If I have any influence on this matter, then my opinion is that we have to look ahead. You can say that the Foundation does some good work, they may have made mistakes and so on. The night when the election failed, it was very difficult for her. Therefore, my attitude is determined and we must move forward. We have so many different problems to solve, I don't think we have to turn over the old books.

I want to study the Paris climate agreement.

Trump: I look at this question very carefully. I have an open mind. This is an interesting topic because there is no topic that has more disagreements than climate change. But there are indeed many people standing on the opposite side of climate change... I have a very open mind. I want to study a lot of things happening on it.

ARTHUR SULZBERGE R Jr., The New York Times issuer: Well, since we live on an island (Manhattan), I want to thank you for having an open mind. We have seen the disasters caused by these storms in recent years, right? We have seen it with our own eyes.

Trump: I have an open mind. We always have storms, Arthur (Salzberg).

Salzberg: But not so powerful.

Trump: You know that the hottest day in history was in the 1890s. You can give a lot of examples for different opinions. I have a completely open mind.

My uncle is a professor of MIT for 35 years. He is a great engineer and scientist. He has attached great importance to this issue for a long time. This is a very complicated issue and I am not sure who will really know. On the one hand, the scientists said that they have scientific basis, but at the Geneva climate conference, the terrible mail between the scientists was shaken out, which is not the case.

(But) I definitely have an open mind. I will tell you: clean air is very important, clean water is vital, and safety is also essential.

You know, there are a lot of golf issues in your article. I have some great golf courses and I have received many environmental awards.

James BENNET ("Viewpoint" editor): When you say "open mind", you mean you just don't know if human activities will cause climate change? Do you think human activities are linked to climate change?

Trump: I want to have some connections, but it depends on how much, and it depends on how much American companies will spend. You must understand that our company is not competitive at the moment. About four weeks ago, I began to add a sentence to many of my speeches - we have lost 70,000 factories since George W. Bush took office. 70,000, when I first saw this number, I said: "This is definitely a writing mistake. But this is not a mistake, it is correct. We have lost 70,000 factories.

We must make ourselves competitive. There are many reasons for our loss of competitiveness, and (climate problems) have become more and more a cause. Many companies have reached an (environmental) agreement with our president, but they are not keeping their promises, and in addition, these companies are cheaper to manufacture products. So I have to work very hard on this issue.

MICHAEL D. SHEAR (White House reporter): Clarifying simple questions related to climate change, are you planning to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement, as you said?

Trump: I am going to study it.

Hill: If the reaction of foreign leaders is to increase tariffs on imported US goods to offset the environmental damage caused by the US's commitment to reduce carbon emissions, can you accept it?

Trump: I don't think countries will do this to us. I don't think their leaders will be so irrational. No matter what I do, they can't do anything about it. But I will study this issue very seriously.

I don't need money, I don't need anything.

This is Trump's family portrait.

Hill: The second question is about the combination of your global business interests and the presidency. In the past two weeks after you were elected president, you have seen your Indian business partner...

Trump: As far as you are concerned about potential conflicts of interest, from the standpoint, the law is completely on my side. The president cannot have a conflict of interest. This has been reported very widely. I don't want any conflict of interest.

But I have built a large global company. People are beginning to see (I am) jobs around the world, including India. Through such job opportunities, (we) have established good relations with the Indian people. But some people think that I can never see my daughter Ivanka again.

Someone interjected: That is the premise that you appointed Ivanka to become the company's acting president.

Trump: (according to their logic), the only thing I was allowed to see was my 10-year-old son.

Someone asked: Can you sell your company so that you can always see your children?

Trump: This is a very hard thing because I have a real estate industry around the world. When I was in the election of the president to submit the form, people said, "This is really a big company." This company has excellent assets. Moreover, selling real estate and selling stocks are completely different. I mentioned on the "60 Minutes" news program that my company is so insignificant compared to what I am doing now, because I don't need money, I don't need anything. By the way, I have very low leverage and I only have a small percentage of debt.

I don't care about my company. But if a partner comes from India or Canada, and we just built a beautiful big building. If they come to my office and want to take pictures with me. Although my child has taken over my business now, I was dealing with these people. What do I have to say now? I won't talk to you, don't take pictures with you? Human nature, I will still shoot.

But I must say that I am empowered to deal with all kinds of matters, including health care. The only thing that matters to me right now is to run my country.

Other presidents have never had such a huge wealth.

MICHAELBA RBARO (political journalist): What kind of structure would you build to keep the president and the company separate? For example, you have met people in the past 24 hours and talked about how wind farms can interfere with the scenery of your golf course.

Trump: I may have raised the issue of a wind power plant, but it has nothing to do with me personally. Wind power is a very deceptive thing. First, we don't make windmills in the US, they are made in Germany and Japan. The windmill also kills birds. Also, I don't think they can work without government subsidies. Some environmentalists agree very much with my opinion.

Barbaro: To clarify, my problem is structure. How do you formally separate these things to prove that there is no such thing as doing these things as president?

Trump: I don't want to influence any business decisions, it doesn't matter to me. I have a hard time explaining. Now, according to the law, I can be the President of the United States, and I have full authority to run my company and sign commercial documents. But I am gradually withdrawing from my company business and handing it over to Eric Trump, Don Trump, Ivanka Trump and some of my executives. I have greatly reduced the meeting with the contractor.

My current situation is unprecedented. Because if you look at other (president), they never have such huge assets and wealth, which is different. So, I think you have to build some kind of trust for me. In addition, I also want to try to formalize some structures because I don't care about my business.

I have already condemned Nazism.

Trump: (Answering that the new White House chief strategist is a racist question) has known Bannon for a long time. If I think he is a racist, or any other similar situation, I will not even consider using him. First of all, I am the person who made the decision, not Steve Road Bannon or anyone else. He is a very, very smart guy.

"Bright Bart" (extreme right media, Bannon was the executive chairman) reported a lot of news. Just like the New York Times, it includes some rough stories. In essence, this is a newspaper, a publication. I know that guy, he is an individual guy. He didn't work with me for so long, he joined the team after I won the primary election. In many ways, I think his point of view is actually the opposite of what many might think.

Brightbat is more conservative than The New York Times. But it is really just a very successful news organization. It has its own readership. It covers many "alternative right-wing" themes, but you can't say that Steve Road Bannon himself is an "alternative right-wing" member. People who know him like him, including leftists. He helped establish a fairly successful news organization. I feel that the social evaluation of him is not fair.

By the way, if you feel that I am wrong on any question, I would love to hear it. You can call me, the only person who is not allowed to call me is Maureen (Maureen Dowd, "New York Times" "viewpoint" columnist), who treats me too harshly. I don't know what happened to Maureen! She used to be very good.

Someone interjected: Mr. President, I want to ask you, last weekend, the "alternative right wing" held a meeting in Washington, and they promised to be loyal to Nazism. Will you condemn them?

Trump: I have already condemned them.

All the newspapers think that I will lose the election, shame!

Trump: (Answer how the president interacts with Republicans and Congress) Now they all like me. Paul Lurian (President of the House of Representatives) and Mitchell McConnell (the Republican majority leader of the Senate) now like me. How the outcome of the election victory can change the course of affairs, which is very magical. I like Chuck Lussoff (New York State Senator, Democratic Senate Minority Leader) for a long time. In fact, I have raised a lot of money for Chuck over the years and have given him a lot of money. I think I was the first person to donate to Schumer. When Chuck Lussomer visited my small office in Brooklyn, I don't know if he would like to admit it, but I believe this was his first campaign donation and I gave him $500. Chuck Luke is a good person, I think we will get along very well.

Dean Baquet (Editor of the New York Times and former Pulitzer Prize winner): When you say, "I want to launch a multi-mega dollar infrastructure project." I am very curious about the road to McConnell. Are Paul and Paul Ryan willing to spend the money? Because they are on the Republican side, they will say, "This is great, but you can't do it and balance the budget."

Before seeing Trump last week, the US media was nervously ventilating

Trump: Let's see if I can finish it. Now they like me. They didn't like it four weeks ago. Unfortunately, I read The New York Times. Yes, if I don't read, I may live more than 20 years.

All newspapers believe that I will lose the presidential election, which will be the biggest shame in the political history of this country. Instead, I can easily win the presidential election, you see those states.

If you look at Missouri, Blount (Republican senator) fell by five percentage points a few days before the election. He asked me to help him. I helped him and he eventually won re-election. I have helped a lot of senators, only two of them did not help.

The senator of New Hampshire said she refused to vote for me. After the election, she came to seek an opportunity to work in the administration. I said, "No, thank you, you refused to vote for me." Another Nevada senator, I once endorsed me, but later canceled the endorsement. Then he called me before the vote and said that I would support him. I said, "Thank you, good luck." I said, record it, I hope you lose.

Friedman (New York Times columnist): I came here and thought that you would be overwhelmed by this job, but I think you feel comfortable with it.

Trump: I feel comfortable. I am amazed at the work, anyone will be like this, but I honestly say, Tom (Friedman), I feel very comfortable, you know it will be a great achievement. If I can come back here one or two years later, and many people are saying here: "You have done a great job."

Just received a call from Bill Gates and Tim Luk Cook

Trump: (Talking about blue-collar employment issues) They call it the “rust zone” (the old manufacturing town that has been declining in the middle of the United States) for a reason. Looking back over the past 20 years, they were not called “rust belts”, but now a large number of factories are closed and equipment is rusting. For me, it’s more important to take care of those who are proven to like me, not politicians. If politicians don't take care of these people, they won't win.

These workers are really angry. They are very smart. I call them men and women who are forgotten. We have to bring it back to work. I have said to so many companies that if you don't move back to your company, you won't be able to sell us your products.

I believe that you will hear the announcement in the next few months, and I have spoken to many companies that have moved thousands of jobs overseas.

Friedman: Then do you worry that those companies will leave their factories here, but the work will be replaced by robots?

Trump: They will, we will also do robots. This is a big deal. Now we don't do robots. We don't make anything. However, the robot industry is becoming very big and we have to make it. We will have more factories. We cannot lose 70,000 factories.

I was honored to receive a call from Bill Gates yesterday. We had a good conversation. I also received a call from Apple's Tim Luk Cook. I said, "Tim, for me, one of the biggest achievements is that Apple has established a big factory in the United States and no longer manufactures products in China, Vietnam, etc." He said: "I understand." I said "I think we will create incentives for you. I think you will do this. We will make a very big tax reduction plan for the company, and you will be very happy." But we have to cut taxes, we must get rid of supervision, no matter You advocate freedom or conservatism, I mean I can sit down and show you that anybody agrees to be ridiculous. The current regulation has caused the company to be inoperable, they can't even start, they can't expand, they are stifled.

I will cut taxes drastically and cut regulations on a large scale. I met many people, including American business owners. They are more interested in reducing regulatory requirements than tax cuts. You know that we have a company leaving the US because the tax is too high. But they leave because of regulatory requirements. Of the two, large-scale reductions in regulations are more important and more popular than large tax cuts.

Obama spent a lot of money, no one knows where the money went.

Trump: (Arthur mentioned infrastructure) No, it is not the core, but it is an important factor. We have to do a lot of things including tax cuts, less regulation, and the replacement or abolition of the health care system. Because in health care, the premiums paid by people have doubled, they don't even get anything, the deductible is so high, and even some deductibles are $16,000. So they paid all the money and they didn't even get health care. So this is very important.

But the infrastructure will be part of it. I don't even think it is the bulk. This will be a big number, but I think I will do something more important than doing infrastructure construction, but the infrastructure is still part of it, we are talking about a very large infrastructure bill. This is not a very "republican" approach, but frankly, I don't know beforehand.

Unfortunately, Obama did not spend money on infrastructure, but on many other things. We want to make sure that money is spent on infrastructure, roads and highways. Obama has spent a lot of money, no one knows where the money has been spent over the years.

I have a big truck driver friend who has bought trucks that are very expensive and perform well. But he called me about two months ago and said, "I want to buy the cheapest truck." I said, "Why?" He said: "My trucks are from New York to California, and they are all broken. Highway conditions. No, the trucks are always bumpy. I don't buy these trucks anymore. I want to buy the cheapest truck with the strongest tires."

What is the world order led by the United States?

Hill: After you met President Obama, he described that you seem to be overwhelmed by what he told you. So I don't know if you are overwhelmed by the importance of the work you are going to inherit, if you can tell us more about the conversation with the president and what you are talking on the phone later (it would be better). Then you can talk about some foreign policy, this is something we have not talked about here, and whether you believe in this world order - a world order led by the United States, which has existed for decades in this country. Security responsibility and free market.

Trump: Of course. I have a good meeting with President Obama. I have never seen him, I really like him. I think what he means is that this is a very stressful job. But I won't be overwhelmed by it. You can do things and correct his mistakes, (but) I think he is doing absolutely the right thing for the country during the handover.

Friedman: What do you think of the role of the United States in the world? We have played the role of a global balancer for the past 50 years, and we have paid more for things because it is in our ultimate interest. What I heard from you is that we have to narrow this role.

Trump: I don't think we should be a country creator. I think we have tried it. I believe that entering Iraq is one of the big mistakes in our history. I think we are wrong, and then many bad things happen, including the formation of ISIS ("Islamic State"). We have been able to take a different approach.

Friedman: NATO? Russia?

Trump: Syria, we have to solve this problem because we will only continue to fight and fight forever. I have different views on Syria from many other people. I have to listen to (Senator) Lindsey Graham talking about attacking Syria and attacking Russia and attacking Iran. You attack, keep attacking, but what do we get?

I have some very strong and certain ideas about Syria. I think there are terrible things happening there. Look at death, I don't just say the death of our people, I mean you look at these cities, Arthur, where are they? They turned into large areas of gravel and thousands more died. I think this is a shame. Ideally, we can get an agreement related to Syria. You know that Putin called me.

Someone asked: What do you think about this relationship?

Trump: Basically everyone calls me, and all the major leaders, most of me have already passed the words.

Friedman: Will you reset your relationship with Russia?

Trump: I really want to be able to bring Russia with us. This is our common interest. I don't have any preconceived notions, but during the campaign, the media said that Donald Trump liked Putin and Putin loved Donald Trump.

If we can work with Russia, it will be a positive thing. We can not only talk to Russia, but we can also get along with other countries.

I hope that the son-in-law will be the one who brings peace to Israel and Palestine.

Joseph Kahn (Editor-in-Chief, New York Times): In Syria, you said that you have a strong idea of ​​how to deal with the conflict in Syria. Can you describe it to us?

Trump: I can only say this: We must end the madness (event) that is happening in Syria. (The Syrian topic has been transferred to private exchanges and has not been made public.)

Hagmand: What is the role of Jared Kushner (Ivanka's husband, Trump's son-in-law) in your management team?

"First son-in-law" Kushner

Trump: Oh. Maybe nothing. Because I don't want someone to say "conflict of interest." Even if the US president is allowed to have any conflicts he wants, I don't want to do this. Jared is a very smart guy and can be very helpful to me. But I am very willing to be a person who can bring peace to Israelis and Palestinians. This will be a great achievement because no one can do it.

Hagmand: Do you think he can be part of (promoting peace agreement efforts)?

Trump: I think he will be very good at it. I mean, he knows the area very well and is familiar with influential people (Jalid is Jewish). I am very willing to include (peace agreement) in many things I want to do. Many people now tell me that this is impossible, you can't do it. I don't agree, I think peace can be achieved. I think people are now tired of killing and being killed. I think we can do this. I have reason to believe that I can do it.

Hagmand: Your vice president is thinking about keeping open the water penalty. You talked about this in the campaign. I hope that you can talk about how you think about torture.

Trump: I met General Matthews. He is a very respectable person. We seriously consider nominating him as the Minister of Defense. I have a long meeting with him and I asked him this question. I said, "What do you think?" surprised me. He said: "I never found out that it is useful." He said: "I always find out, give me a pack of cigarettes and a few beers. I can do better. I don't need torture." I was very impressed with this answer. He is a tough guy and is known as the "mad dog general." Even he said so. He changed my mind.